All-Time Phillies Team

Our coverage of each franchise’s all-time greatest players began with the Chicago White Sox.  This week, we continue with the Philadelphia Phillies.

Franchise Overview

The Phillies were founded in 1883.  They are tied with the Giants as the sixth oldest franchise in big league history.  They are one of the eight National League franchises that has existed longer than any American League team.

Their two World Series championships (1980, 2008) are the lowest total of any of the teams that predate the American League. 

With a total franchise winning percentage of just 0.472, the Phillies rank fourth worst all-time.

When viewed through the lens of total playoff appearances, the Phillies fare only slightly better.  They have appeared in the postseason in 10.3% of their total seasons, the seventh lowest mark in history.

It took the Phillies 98 seasons to win their first world championship.  They only managed to win the National League two other times during that stretch (1915 and 1950).  

To make matters worse, their crosstown rivals, the Athletics, won five World Series and eight total AL pennants during their years in Philadelphia from 1901-1954.

In the 38 years since they won their first championship, things have been considerably better in Philadelphia.  Since 1980, the Phillies have made the playoffs nine times, winning five NL pennants, and the 2008 World Series.

Hitters

Starting LineupNamePositionB/TbWAR/650OPS+Years Played
1.Bobby AbreuRFL/R5.31391998-2006
2.Ed DelahantyLF (1B/2B)R/R5.71531888-89, 1891-1901
3.Dick Allen1B (3B/LF)R/R5.21531963-69, 75-76
4.Mike Schmidt3BR/R7.01471972-89
5.Chase Utley2BL/R6.31222003-15
6.Darren DaultonCL/R3.61141983-97
7.Richie AshburnCFL/R4.71111948-59
8.Jimmy RollinsSSS/R3.2972000-14
9.PitcherP
Bench
OFSherry MageeLF/1B/CFR/R5.21421904-14
OFSam ThompsonRFL/L4.21441889-98
OFChuck KleinRF/LFL/R4.01391928-33, 36-38, 39-44
1BRyan Howard1BL/L1.21252004-16
INScott Rolen3BR/R5.41261996-2002
CMike LieberthalCR/R2.31021994-2006

Infield

Third Baseman Mike Schmidt is undoubtedly the greatest player in franchise history.  Schmidt played his entire 18-year career in Philadelphia.  With three MVPs, 12 All Star selections, 10 Gold Gloves, and six Silver Sluggers, Schmidt has a compelling case as the best third baseman in baseball history.

While Schmidt may be the only clear cut top tier all-time player, the rest of the Phillies position players are solid all around.  The overall offensive production for the members of the Phillies All-Time Team has them pushing for the top-five among all franchises.

The Phillies won five straight NL East championships from 2007-2011.  Not surprisingly, five members of those teams make the All-Time Phillies team.  The Phillies pitching staff was dominant during that stretch, but nobody was more important to the team’s success than it’s double-play combination.  The duo of Chase Utley and Jimmy Rollins treated Phillies fans to a golden age of middle infield play for the better part of 12 seasons.

Even fans who follow the modern game closely might be surprised to find that second baseman Chase Utley crafted a solid Hall of Fame case during his 13 years in Philadelphia.  He was a six-time All Star and won four Silver Sluggers.

Playing across the keystone from Utley, shortstop Jimmy Rollins was likewise one of the best all-around players of his day.  The switch-hitting Rollins was a three-time All Star who won four Gold Gloves and a Silver Slugger for the Phillies.  He was the National League MVP in 2007 as the Phillies won their first divisional championship in 14 years.

First baseman Dick Allen was among the most feared sluggers in baseball for the more than a decade.  He spent the first seven years of his career in Philadelphia before returning for two more late in his career.  Allen was the NL Rookie of the Year in 1964 when he led the league in runs, triples, and total bases.  He also led the NL in OPS+ back-to-back seasons in 1966-1967.  He was a four-time All Star for the Phillies.  He went on to make three more All Star teams with the White Sox where he also won the 1972 AL MVP.

Outfield

Hall of Famer Ed Delahanty is the starter in left field.  Although he played before the advent of MVP and All Star voting, he led the league in offensive bWAR three times as a member of the Phillies, and once more for the Washington Senators.

Fellow Hall of Famer Richie Ashburn gets the nod in center field.  Ashburn played 12 seasons for the Phillies.  An on-base machine who played the overwhelming majority of his career up the middle, Ashburn was a tremendously valuable player.  He won batting titles for the Phillies in 1955 and 1958.  He also paced the NL in OBP in those seasons as well as 1954.  Ashburn made four All Star teams for Philadelphia.

Right fielder Bobby Abreu was among the most talented, and versatile offensive players of his generation.  In nine seasons with the Phillies, Abreu made two All Star teams.  He also won one Gold Glove, and a Silver Slugger.  Abreu’s best seasons were right at the beginning of the sabermetric revolution, and at the end of the steroid era.  His unique blend of power, speed, and on-base skills was largely undervalued during his career.

Darren Daulton starts at catcher.  In 14 seasons with the Phillies, Daulton was a three-time All Star and won a Silver Slugger.  In 1992, he was third among NL position players in bWAR, and led the league with 109 RBI.  Amazingly, he is one of only two players (the only hitter) from the 1993 NL Championship team to make the Phillies All-Time team.  

Bench

The Phillies have had a remarkable history of excellent outfielders.  To reflect that distribution of talent, three outfielders were added to their bench.

Sherry Magee has a strong case to overtake Abreu as the starter in right field.  He was an excellent offensive player over 11 years in Philadelphia.  He led the NL in average, OBP, slugging, runs, and RBI in a fantastic 1910 season.

Joining Magee as extra outfielders are Hall of Famers Chuck Klein and Sam Thompson.

Klein had a stretch of three straight seasons finishing either first or second in the MVP voting from 1931-1933.  He won the award in 1932.  A two-time All Star, Klein was among the most feared sluggers in the NL throughout the early part of his career.  He led the league in homers four times from 1929-1933.  

Thompson played 10 years in Philadelphia before the turn of the century.  He led the league twice each in hits, doubles, homers, RBI, and slugging during his years with the Phillies.  

First baseman Ryan Howard spent his entire 13-year big league career with the Phillies.  Howard burst onto the scene winning the Rookie of the Year in 2005.  He led the NL in homers twice, and RBI three times.  He was a three time All Star and won one Silver Slugger.  In 2006 he hit 58 homers and drove in 149 runs to win the NL MVP.

Howard is difficult player to evaluate in a historical context because his career is a tale of two different players.   From 2004-2011, Howard produced 138 OPS+, and was regarded as one of the most dangerous hitters in the game. 

On the flip side, from 2012-2016 he played an additional 545 games in which he was a below-average hitter, and miserable defender.  In total, the decline phase of his career cost him more than seven bWAR off his career total.  In light of the terror he was at the start of his career, and the central role he played during arguably the best stretch in franchise history, I have opted to remember Howard at his best, rather than his worst.

As good as Philadelphia’s lineage of excellent outfielders has been, their legacy in the infield has been just as shallow.  Third baseman Scott Rolen is the lone infielder on the Phillies bench.  Rolen won the NL Rookie of the Year in 1997.  He won four Gold Gloves and one Silver Slugger.  He was selected as an All Star in 2002, just weeks before the Phillies would trade him to St. Louis.  He remained a similarly excellent player for six seasons with the Cardinals.

Catcher Mike Lieberthal played 13 seasons for the Phillies.  He was a two-time All Star and won one Gold Glove.  He finished his career as a roughly average hitter at a premium defensive position.

Pitchers

Starting RotationNameB/TERA+Years Played
1.Steve CarltonL/L1201972-86
2.Robin RobertsS/R1141948-61
3.Grover Cleveland AlexanderR/R1401911-17, 30
4.Cole HamelsL/L1242006-15
5.Chris ShortR/L1051959-72
Bullpen
LRTurk FarrellR/R1141956-61, 67-69
RPRicky BottalicoL/R1151994-98, 2001-02
RPMitch WilliamsL/L1191991-93
RPTug McGrawR/L1201975-1984
SURyan MadsonL/R1222003-11
CLRon ReedR/R1221976-83

As good as the Phillies position players have been throughout their history, the pitching staff has been decidedly mediocre for an organization with such a lengthy history.

The Phillies all-time rotation ranks 15th by average ERA+.  They boast a trio of Hall of Famers at the front of the group.

The most iconic pitcher in Phillies history is Steve Carlton.  “Lefty” earned 241 of his 329 career wins over the course of 15 seasons in Philadelphia.  He won an incredible four Cy Young Awards during his Phillies career.  He is fifth in big league history with 4.29 career Cy Young shares.  He ranks fourth all-time in strikeouts.  Carlton was a seven-time All Star for the Phillies, and was chosen 10 times overall.  He was the ace of the 1980 World Series champions, winning two games in the series.  Steve Carlton is probably among the five greatest left-handed pitchers in history.

Right-hander Robin Roberts pitched 14 seasons of his Hall of Fame career for the Phillies.  Remembered for his exceptional control, Roberts was one of the best pitchers of the 1950s.  He was a seven-time All Star, and received MVP votes in each of those seven seasons.  Roberts led the league in bWAR for pitchers six times in his career.

Grover Cleveland Alexander began his exceptional career with the Phillies in 1911.  A dominant pitcher of his day, Alexander led the league in both wins and strikeouts in five of his first seven seasons.  He pitched the Phillies to 90 wins, and the pennant, in 1915.  After the 1917 season, the Phillies traded Alexander to the Cubs.  After missing most of 1918 while fighting in Europe during World War I, Alexander reestablished himself with the Cubs.  This second act was a critical piece of his eventual Hall of Fame selection.

Cole Hamels was a consistently reliable force for the Phillies from 2006-2015.  The lefty was a three-time All Star.  He finished eighth, or better, in the Cy Young voting four times.  In 2008, he led the National League with a 1.08 WHIP as the clear cut ace of a World Championship rotation.  In the postseason, the Phillies won all five of his starts including two in the World Series.

Left-hander Chris Short rounds out the rotation.  In 14 seasons with the Phillies, he helped anchor the pitching staff of some respectable teams.  He was a two-time All Star, and received down ballot MVP votes in two seasons as well.  He ranked in the top-five among NL pitchers in bWAR three times.

Bullpen

Despite a solid starting rotation, the bullpen of the All-Time Phillies is arguably the weakest unit in this entire exercise.  The top three players on the organization’s all-time saves leader board were all placed on the rosters of other franchises.  As a result, the Phillies unit that survived is a bit picked over.

Ron Reed gets the call at closer.  An average starting pitcher for the first 10 years of his career with the Braves, Reed was reborn as a reliever.  After he was traded twice in one season, he landed in Philadelphia.  Reed was often dominant out of the Philadelphia bullpen.  In 1980, he was one of manager Dallas Green’s most trusted relievers on the organization’s first World Championship team.

Ryan Madson managed an identical ERA+ to Reed in nearly identical bodies of work over the course of their Phillies careers.  Like Reed, Madson was also one of the most trusted relievers on a Phillies World Series team (2008).  Despite being frequently overshadowed by Brad Lidge, Madson was also a force over nine seasons with Philadelphia.  He is third all-time in pitching appearances for the Phillies.

Left-hander Tug McGraw was among the game’s most accomplished relievers when the Phillies acquired him from the Mets after the 1974 season.  In ten seasons with Philadelphia, he was mostly excellent, averaging 120 ERA+.  Like Reed, he was relied upon heavily during the 1980 World Series run including nailing down saves in two of the four Phillies wins in the series.  McGraw made one All Star team in Philadelphia, received Cy Young votes once, and MVP votes twice.  He is fourth all-time in pitching appearances for the Phillies.

Mitch Williams was one of the most recognizable relievers of his generation.  Wild Thing established his late-inning chops with the Rangers and Cubs before joining the Phillies in 1991.  He was sixth in the Cy Young voting in his first season with the club.   He then helped pitch them to the World Series in 1993.  Although he only pitched three seasons in Philadelphia, he ranks fourth all-time in saves for the Phillies.  

Ricky Bottalico played seven seasons over two stints in Philadelphia.  He broke into the league with a bang.  Over his first three full seasons, Bottalico posted a 139 ERA+, saved 69 games, and made the All Star team in 1996.  The remainder of his career consisted of alternating respectability with struggles, and six different team changes.  

The final spot in the bullpen went to Turk Farrell.  Farrell played nine seasons over two stints with the Phillies.  He was an All Star for Philadelphia in 1958.  Between his stints in Philadelphia, he was a three-time All Star for Houston.

All-Time White Sox Team

Every week at Franchise Phenoms, I plan to release the all-time 25 man roster for a new franchise.

In addition to publishing the 25-man roster, there will be other content related to the history of the franchise’s best players.

I chose to begin with the Chicago White Sox.  I have lived most of my life in Northwest Indiana, a short 40-minute drive from the ballpark on the South Side of Chicago.  For better or worse, I was raised a White Sox fan, and that’s where we will begin.

Franchise Overview

The White Sox were founded in 1901 as a charter member of the American League.  Only eight National League franchises have played more seasons than the White Sox.

Their three World Series championships (1906, 1917, 2005) have them tied for 10th most in history.

The White Sox are one of 13 teams to have a franchise winning percentage over .500.  Their .503 mark puts them at 11th best in history.

Despite a long history of respectability, White Sox fans have struggled as often as not.

The Sox went without a World championship from 1917-2005.  The club made just two World Series appearances in the meantime.

The 1919 club had the second best record of any team in Sox history before infamously conspiring with gamblers to throw the World Series.  This cloud hung over the franchise for decades as the Sox made just one more World Series trip in the next 85 years.

The most telling statistic in White Sox history might be the fact that the percentage of the team’s seasons in which they have made the playoffs is the lowest of any team in history at just 7.63%.

For a franchise that has frequently fielded winning teams, the Sox have rarely rewarded their fans with a chance to see baseball in October.  

Hitters

Starting LineupNamePositionB/TbWAR/ 650OPS+Years Played
1.Joe JacksonLFL/R3.61591915-20
2.Eddie Collins2BL/R6.21331915-26
3.Frank ThomasDH (1B)R/R5.31611990-2005
4.Minnie MinosoRF (LF/3B)R/R4.71331951-57, 60-61, 64, 76, 80
5.Paul Konerko1BR/R2.11201999-2014
6.Robin Ventura3B (1B)L/R4.91171989-98
7.Luke ApplingSSR/R4.81131930-50
8.Fielder JonesCFL/R4.31121901-08
9.Sherm LollarCR/R3.61061952-63
Bench
OFMagglio OrdonezRFR/R4.01271997-2004
OFHarold BainesRFL/L2.41181980-89, 96-97, 00-01
INLuis AparicioSSR/R3.6831956-62, 68-70
INNellie Fox2BL/R3.3951950-63
CRay SchalkCR/R3.1831912-28

The White Sox careers of Frank Thomas, “Shoeless” Joe Jackson, and Eddie Collins place them among the elite in this entire exercise.

A two-time A.L. MVP, and Hall of Famer, Thomas would start at first base or DH for the all-time team of every single franchise without requiring much shuffling to make it work.  Thomas is unquestionably one of the best hitters in history.

No team has three outfielders who were better hitters than Shoeless Joe was for the White Sox.  It was a tough decision as to whether or not to include Jackson in this exercise given his involvement in the 1919 Black Sox Scandal.  Considering his performance record in the games in question, and the fact that some historians dispute his guilt, I gave him the benefit of the doubt where others throughout history have not.

Collins is part of a rare breed of player who would be a lock to start for two different franchises if I permitted players to appear for more than one team.  He was actually a better player on a rate basis with the Athletics, but accrued more playing time and total value for the White Sox.

For a team with such a long history, it’s not surprising to find that most of the starters for the Sox are approximately average at worst when compared to their counterparts on other teams.

At shortstop, Luke Appling is a Hall of Famer who spent his entire career with the franchise.  His contact/on-base skills and above-average defense over a 20-year career put him in rarefied air among South Side greats.  He was a seven-time All Star who twice finished second in the MVP voting.

Third baseman Robin Ventura was an extremely underrated player for his 10 seasons with the Sox.  He won six Gold Gloves while providing consistently above-average offensive production.

As a solid hitter who provided no value defensively, or on the bases, Paul Konerko is among the 5-10 weakest starting franchise first baseman.  Konerko became the face of the White Sox for the better part of a decade following the 2005 World Series.  He was named the team’s captain, and was beloved by the organization’s fans.  On a value basis, there is a case for his teammate, Magglio Ordonez to be inserted into the starting lineup.  Given that Konerko is on the right side of the team’s improbable 2005 championship run, he gets the nod.  Konerko was a six-time All Star.

Fielder Jones is the only member of the all-time Sox roster who played for the team during it’s inaugural season in 1901.  Jones began his career with the Brooklyn Bridegrooms in the National League before posting eight seasons as an above-average hitter and solid outfielder for the Sox.

Cuban baseball icon Minnie Minoso gets the nod in right field.  Minoso was an elite offensive player who was a seven-time All Star and two-time Gold Glover during his 12 seasons with the Sox.  Minoso finished fourth in the MVP voting four different times with the Sox.  He was famously brought back for cameo appearances with the club in 1976 and 1980 making him one of only two players to appear in the big leagues during five different decades.

Catcher Sherm Lollar played 12 years on the South Side.  He was a six-time All Star, and won three Gold Gloves while playing for the Sox.  He gets the starting nod over Hall of Famer Ray Schalk on the strength of a significantly better offensive career.

Bench

The Sox bench boasts three Hall of Famers who were excellent all around players over long careers with the club in Ray Schalk (C), Nellie Fox (2B), and Luis Aparicio (SS).

Schalk received MVP votes four different times in his 17 years with the Sox.

Fox was a 12-time All Star who led the league in hits four times.  He added three Gold Gloves and is well-regarded for his defense.  In 1959, as the best player on the American League Champion “Go-Go” White Sox, Fox was also the AL MVP.

Aparicio played 10 of his 18 seasons with the White Sox.  He was a six-time All Star and seven-time Gold Glover in Chicago.  He led the league in stolen bases for nine straight seasons to begin his career, seven of which were with the Sox.  In 1959, he finished second to his double play partner Fox in the MVP race.

Organizational favorite Harold Baines was the first overall draft pick in 1977.  He was a solid hitter, and four-time All Star in 14 seasons with the Sox.  Some of his best offensive seasons were spent as a designated hitter in exile with other American League teams in the 1990s.

Venezuelan right fielder Magglio Ordonez rounds out the offense.  Ordonez was a four-time All Star in eight seasons with the Sox.  Terrible timing of a nasty knee injury in 2004 hastened his departure via free agency to Detroit the following winter.  Maggs remained a productive hitter with Detroit including a second place MVP finish in 2007.

Pitchers

Starting RotationNameB/TERA+Years Played
1.Ed WalshR/R1471904-16
2.Billy PierceL/L1231949-61
3.Mark BuehrleL/L1202000-11
4.Red FaberS/R1191914-33
5.Chris SaleL/L1352010-16
Bullpen
LRTed LyonsS/R1181923-46
RPBobby ThigpenR/R1261986-93
RPBobby JenksR/R1362005-10
RPRoberto HernandezR/R1541991-97
SUKeith FoulkeR/R1661997-2002
CLHoyt WilhelmR/R1711963-68

The White Sox boast the sixth best starting pitching rotation of any all-time team by average ERA+.  

Hall of Famer Ed Walsh spent 13 seasons with the Sox during which time he was, at times, arguably the best pitcher in baseball.  He accumulated nearly all of his career value in Chicago.  His 1.82 career ERA and 2.02 FIP are the best in baseball history. 

Billy Pierce spent 13 seasons on the South Side.  He was a seven-time All Star.  He led the league in Wins, Strikeouts, and ERA at different times during his White Sox tenure.

Mark Buehrle is perhaps one of the more improbable all-time greats in history.  A soft-tossing left-hander who first signed as a 38th round pick, Buehrle was a four-time All Star in 12 seasons for the Sox.  He threw both a perfect game and a no-hitter with the Sox.  He is one of just seven players to accomplish that feat in history.

Hall of Famer Red Faber pitched his entire 20-year career for the Sox.  He led the league in ERA and Complete Games in back to back seasons (1921-22).

The most controversial selection to the White Sox pitching staff is probably Chris Sale.  Sale pitched just seven seasons and 1110 innings with the Sox before being traded to Boston after the 2016 season.  Sale was a five-time All Star with the White Sox, finishing sixth or better in the Cy Young voting in each of those seasons.  He led the league in Strikeouts and ERA+ once each along the way.  A quick Twitter Poll of my followers indicated most fans believe he had done enough to qualify for the list.

Bullpen

The White Sox have a long history of solid relief pitching as well.  The average ERA+ of their relievers is third best of any all-time team.

As is my custom, most teams stash another elite starting pitcher in their bullpen.  Hall of Famer Ted Lyons was bumped from the rotation to include Sale, but his 21-year White Sox career lands him in the pen.  Lyons led the league in Wins and Innings twice each, and ERA once, during his career.  He did make 110 career relief appearances.

Knuckleballer Hoyt Wilhelm gets the nod at closer.  Wilhelm pitched for nine different teams in his career, but threw more innings for the Sox than any other.  An old-school fireman who averaged nearly two innings per appearance for the Sox, Wilhelm was dominant during his six seasons on the South Side.

Like Wilhelm, change up specialist Keith Foulke spent six years with the Sox finishing 10th in the 1999 Cy Young vote.

Roberto Hernandez spent seven seasons with the Sox before bouncing around to nine other teams.  He finished sixth in the Cy Young voting and was an All Star in 1996.

Bobby Jenks burst onto the scene for the Sox in 2005 before earning the closer’s role late in the regular season.  His 100+ MPH heater helped him convert four of five save chances that October including the World Series clincher.  He made the All Star team in 2006-2007 before departing as a free agent after the 2010 season.

Bobby Thigpen spent eight seasons with the Sox.  He had a career year in 1990 making the All Star team and finishing in the top-five in both the Cy Young and MVP voting.  His 57 saves that year stood as the single season record until 2008 when Francisco Rodriguez saved 62 for the Angels.  He is Chicago’s franchise leader with 201 career saves.